Feedback. PoE 2 Q/A = Awful. Fear for the future

These are my fears and a serious critique post aimed for devs (but not just hating, I'm instead alerting you).

I'm not here to "debate" anyone else, unless you have a really good point. Anyway...

Almost 650 hrs/play... mainly spreaded trough 3 chars, all made to endgame, pinacle bosses, etc.

Here why i find the game super bad currently although still with some potential:

- Endgame map layouts are pure garbage. Waypoints are a laughable band-aid fix. Augury, Mire, Vaal Factory... TOWERS... Jesus Christ, just GET RID of those things! In fact, you must come out with revamped maps entirely. Sorry, it just is.

- The Atlas is insufferable. Navigation problems, zoom problems, icon problems, if you don't spend a really good amount of time "opening" spaces, you just get a partially loaded and broken thing next time you open it, broken paths, unreacheable nodes, etc. Being "infinite expanding" is also part of the problem here. I'd rather have another more condensed and less confusing alternative.

- The lame and stupid 1 death per map / exp loss "game vision". I don't need a videogame lecturing me about getting good, nor a slap in the wrist not any f*cking stupid mechanic like that. Make a mode/league for the small set of people who enjoy it, because most average sane people don't. DO NOT INSIST ON THIS VISION, IT WILL BE YOUR DOWNFALL IN THE LONG RUN. You've been warned. Thank you.

- In my minion witch, most of the class is in a fine state... except for the CORE mechanics of it: minion AI/Body blocking and can't pass through doors or narrow corridors. This is the most trash AI ever made in a videogame. And I've been playing games since 1985. Seriously.. FIX. IT!

- Gemling leggionaire - stat stacking: the most clunky, clumsy use of skills ever done. I get stuck in pieces of rocks along the way, or a patch of grass. The tempest flurry skill just stops casting for no good reason, it is a ZERO-defense class even with resistances capped, it easily gets knocked out by any monster who touches it. Please, compare it to a whirlwind barbarian in any Diablo Game. You'll be a very cringe comparison - how the barbarian glides and slides seamlessly through maps and doors and your char here can't go sideways through a tree.

- Group play is the most awful and awkward i've seen in a videogame: from other players blocking your path mechanics... please, just drop it and recreate. I stopped inviting friends to tag along because if anyone dies in a map, then it comes the stupid "wait outside while we finish it" thing. Guys, please... PLEASE... This kind of thing.. Just... NO!

- Trials: for ascending, it's absurdly overtuned and [Removed by Support]. For farming after getting overpowered gear, maybe ok. Honor system is an insult for any melee class.

- Economy: trade-based gearing philosophy is all that is wrong here. Any trade-balanced game will be swarmed by some "russian/chinese" (not only those but mostly is what i've seen) bot mafia flipping items, price fixing, scamming, duplicating items, manipulating coins and doing sh*t on the market. There's nothing you can do about it, sorry, it WILL happen forever, so most game companies don't balance games around trading anymore. No, SSF mode is NOT a solution, is just a worse version of crappy drops for you - now without market scammers. So you NEED to find a better ground for itemization.

Trading while some people enjoy it just becomes a gold rush in every league and no people who got "late" in the season have any chance of prospering.


- Game lacks SEVERE Q/A and quality of life: from crappy optimizations (basically relying single-handedly on upscale for performance), game NOT performing on recommended settings, to not being able to interact with stairs, all the CLUNKYNESS of many game play mechanics on skills and characters, constant crashes, disconnects... seriously... if Blizzard knew how to make any engaging system and itemization on their Diablo games you wouldn't stand A CHANCE here. Not. A. Single. Chance. Period. Cause the quality of Diablo games in terms of game polishing, UI/UX and general playability is AEONS ahead of you - even when their game was in beta phases. This is not a rant, it is just a fact.


So guys, if you this game is to be an alternative to PoE 1 for "other audiences", you need a SERIOUS amount of work to do here. And I MEAN it.


I really don't want you to fail. I'd really have this game to live a LONG time and be another alternative to alternate between seasons / leagues, whatever.

But if a major overhaul doesn't happens (and you have I think a year to that) I simply don't think it will happen.

People already tested you game. They spent time on it 'till burnout. Most of them are GONE. Many won't come back for more if this states stays. I don't like to be overly negative or sound like a "hater" everywhere, but this are just the sensation I got here and I've been feeling as a player. Me too, I'm almost in the mood to just quit and go for other things already. Don't know if i'll have the patience to try another season reset on the current state.a

Anyway... I wish you luck, because if it took 5-7 years to reach THIS state and THIS game quality you got in so far, I think the situation is dire and you'll need an heroic amount of work to fix it in a timely fashion.

Thank you and again and sorry for (mostly) all the rants above, it's just me expressing how things are feeling right now. GL.

Throwing around the word [Removed by Support] doesn’t make your argument stronger—it just makes you sound ignorant. If you want to be taken seriously, maybe try making your point without using outdated slurs. You’re complaining about bad game design, but no one’s going to care if you can’t even get through a post without being offensive.

Good to see that the full extent of GGG's support lately has been to actively remove offensive words from forum posts.

I realize different people perform different tasks, but gawd damn GGG needs to prioritize a little bit.

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tyrespoe#5113 schrieb:

Good to see that the full extent of GGG's support lately has been to actively remove offensive words from forum posts.

I realize different people perform different tasks, but gawd damn GGG needs to prioritize a little bit.

It's pathetic and makes them look so bad. I think bank initiated refunds are in order soon, if there's not any active communication about the state of the game moving forward, my friend has been waiting to hear back about a charge that got made to the wrong account since December and they're still actively ignoring him.

The word to describe the state of GGG right now is just pathetic.
Who is the person in charge of all this? Is it Jonathan? Is he really doing that poorly that the company is actively imploding?

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N3vangel#0037 schrieb:

Throwing around the word [Removed by Support] doesn’t make your argument stronger—it just makes you sound ignorant. If you want to be taken seriously, maybe try making your point without using outdated slurs. You’re complaining about bad game design, but no one’s going to care if you can’t even get through a post without being offensive.

Oh, sorry pal, it's 2025. I thought all that woke BS of "words = microagression" were already over and the adults had taken control of the world again. My mistake. I thought it was already very clear that I didn't use it to direct to insult any specific group of real people, just a sentiment in general.

Good to see GGG cares so much about f*cking words, but as for the points made, well, we'll see then...

bye bye.

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LeonardoSilvaDF#3295 schrieb:

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N3vangel#0037 schrieb:

Throwing around the word [Removed by Support] doesn’t make your argument stronger—it just makes you sound ignorant. If you want to be taken seriously, maybe try making your point without using outdated slurs. You’re complaining about bad game design, but no one’s going to care if you can’t even get through a post without being offensive.

Oh, sorry pal, it's 2025. I thought all that woke BS of "words = microagression" were already over and the adults had taken control of the world again. My mistake. I thought it was already very clear that I didn't use it to direct to insult any specific group of real people, just a sentiment in general.

Good to see GGG cares so much about f*cking words, but as for the points made, well, we'll see then...

bye bye.

he is right tho, profanity always makes your argument weaker because it adds an emotional element to it.

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AintCare#6513 schrieb:

he is right tho, profanity always makes your argument weaker because it adds an emotional element to it.

Yeah, that's the point. It IS emotional. It is my current SENTIMENT on the game, so I used "profanity" to express how I internally FEEL about it. I thought that was already clear too... I don't know who told you all feedback must to be 100% rational, but I assure you it is NOT the case.

Anyway, I don't want to shift the to this sideway discussion any more. It is not about words, it is about the game state.

If they insist on this "vision" I think it will go back to be a restrict, niche game. Again.

Do they want this? Well, we'll see...

Stopped playing when I got to maps because of the 1 death per map bs. After playing PoE1 years, I'll be done with GGG entirely if they stick this ridiculous punish the player mindset. athey don't respect the players time, and I don't have enough of it to waste on a game that seems to purposely waste it. HC exist for those that want a punishing gameplay... Ruthless existed for those who wanted a semi HC play style. All my friends quit playing because of this too. The vision will ruin my favorite IP and they've used up all the good will they bought over the years

+1 to valid feedback and shared concerns.