[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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Alamandaros schrieb:

Poking my head back in after a few leagues. Did you ever reach a consensus on The Primordial Chain? I remember when it was first introduced you weren't sure if it was better than just using Spectres until you can do a full swap to Golems.

Hello :)

I tested in and played with it around in PoB and came to conclusion that it's more beneficial to run Golems + Specters :

Primordial Chain

+ More Golems mean more shooting minions
+ This means faster clear speed

- Golems deal less damage, so total DPS boost to all Golems is about 20-30%
- Golems will be weaker (can die in boss fights and reflect maps)
- No chaos resistance from amulet
- No extra Energy Shield from amulet
- Golems start to use weaker spells near boss, TVs are much more effective near boss as they only have one spell
- Cant use Animate Guardian for damage and defense boosts

Chain is much better with Ice Golems, when Golems really need the movement speed and wont start using weaker attacks when near boss. I would still recommend using Presence of Chayula and Tukohama Vanguards.

Chain was ridiculously expensive last league from early to mid league. I you can get one, it's ok to use it but I would spend the currency on good pseudo 6-link helmet to Specters and other gear.

Hey Mika,


just looked into your actual PoB ... and noticed that Necromantic Aegis isn't used ... is that intended?

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Mydgard6 schrieb:

Hey Mika,


just looked into your actual PoB ... and noticed that Necromantic Aegis isn't used ... is that intended?

Hello :)

Do you mean the default tree of the guide? It's made using rare shield to get extra block chance and EHP (HP + ES). Necromantic Aegis setup requires better knowledge about enemies and kiting skills, so It's listed as variant.

It's easier to learn the build with extra defenses as it leads to less deaths and frustration. Experienced players can skip the default variant and select any one of the variants they like or start tweaking for their own taste.

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UPDATE

Just broke 400 pages of thread! \o/

Thanks for all the posters and players of the build. I will do my best to keep the build fun to play in the future ^^

Hi all
Tell me how golems cope with the clearing of the Legion?

Hi I dont know why but for some reason I cant find the pob

Edit: Ok silly me finally found it under the passives section

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Besovskii schrieb:

Hi all
Tell me how golems cope with the clearing of the Legion?

Hello :)

Haven't tested them myself yet in league, but have been hearing good things so far. They switch targets when earlier one dies, but can have some trouble targeting specific rares over trash mobs. However that applies to any enemy pack atm and there's no way to force them to focus on one target.

GGG posted that they made sure before league that minion AI is working fine with legions, and that they are doing total minion AI rework at some point. I would really like to see AI switch per minion (aggressive / default / defensive) at some point, but I will be for general improvement in their targeting / movement. I think that if GGG reworks minions AI, it will also affect all mobs in the map as I assume they use same AI, so that would be interesting to see as well.

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Hi I dont know why but for some reason I cant find the pob

Edit: Ok silly me finally found it under the passives section

Hi :)

Good to hear you found it. Guide is quite long, so stuff can be tricky to find.

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mika2salo schrieb:

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Besovskii schrieb:

Hi all
Tell me how golems cope with the clearing of the Legion?

Hello :)

Haven't tested them myself yet in league, but have been hearing good things so far. They switch targets when earlier one dies, but can have some trouble targeting specific rares over trash mobs. However that applies to any enemy pack atm and there's no way to force them to focus on one target.

GGG posted that they made sure before league that minion AI is working fine with legions, and that they are doing total minion AI rework at some point. I would really like to see AI switch per minion (aggressive / default / defensive) at some point, but I will be for general improvement in their targeting / movement. I think that if GGG reworks minions AI, it will also affect all mobs in the map as I assume they use same AI, so that would be interesting to see as well.



Thx for information mika2salo

awesome build hoping i get to hit lvl 100 this league!

i just gotten 3 primordial jewels and build seems pretty good pre minmaxing :)

for the legion content a self cast convocation (group up minions) seems to get the notable spawns killed relatively reliably :)

What about the new passive wicked ward ??? Not worth taking it or more personnal choice?

And i was thinking droppimg winter orb to get something like spell totem or maybe orb of storm to make it easier on monolith fight to target enemy for your summon

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Autch schrieb:

awesome build hoping i get to hit lvl 100 this league!

i just gotten 3 primordial jewels and build seems pretty good pre minmaxing :)

for the legion content a self cast convocation (group up minions) seems to get the notable spawns killed relatively reliably :)

Hello :)

Great for hear that you like the build, thanks for support! ^^

Level 100 is definitely doable, but needs some planning after lvl 95 as deaths can be very punishing. I can highly recommend next tricks to reach lvl 100 :

After level 95+ I recommend :
1) Hosting t12+ rare map parties (parties clear faster and are safer)
2) Joining rotations (6 players each run expensive EXP gain map in their turn)
3) Buying high EXP maps with low risk (Poorjoy's Asylum, etc)

If you are part of any active guild, it will helps a lot in finding mapping company. Golemancer guild has free slots if you are interested in joining.

I actually started to level Golemancer in legion already, so will definitely test the self cast Convocation trick!

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What about the new passive wicked ward ??? Not worth taking it or more personnal choice?

And i was thinking droppimg winter orb to get something like spell totem or maybe orb of storm to make it easier on monolith fight to target enemy for your summon

Hey :)

I tested is briefly, but came to conclusion that it's not very useful to the build. My reasoning was :
- Build is not actual ES tank, so if you take lot of big hits in short time you die faster than what es recharge can help.
- Once you take 1-2 bigger hits and ES runs low, you want to run from enemy as far as possible and kite all the time Phase Run up, which gives enough time to recharge ES back normally. If you get 3rd big hit between the 2-4 seconds that wicked ward matters, you will probably we dead anyway.
- Build wants to stay rather far from enemy already, which gives usually enough time to recharge ES back with its normal rate. Consecutive hits are pretty rare with all minions drawing aggro if keeping the distance.
- Build does not have enough block / evasion to make sure that the 2 second time is reached for first recharge to start. This is lot easier for trickster or similar char with lots of evasion and other ways to avoid damage.

I think Wicker Ward is most useful for builds like Trickster, where you want to stay close to enemies, while also being able to avoid damage long enough for ES recharge to actually start. It's still definitely worth testing it out yourself as it's only 3x nodes away from default tree.

I'm just starting league, so have no idea about how monolith fight works. Have to see it myself when I reach legion packs.