Why not fix Southbound gloves??

Would these really be too op if they removed the "Can only kill frozen enemies". If they removed that part they would just be good gloves, still trash compared to tombfist. Seems like a no-brainer to remove that and have one less cannon fodder uni

Guy wants to remove the one mod that makes the gloves see use.

@OP, you're looking at the item wrong. It's not that the item would be ok without the mod... it's that the mod is the selling point of the item. The gloves are for MF parties that want a single MFer to get all the killing blows. There are some other special situations where it's desirable to have an item that prevents killing blows (Tho with the changes to Vorici and Beastiary Mechanics, a few less then there used to be).

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I0wa schrieb:

Would these really be too op if they removed the "Can only kill frozen enemies". If they removed that part they would just be good gloves, still trash compared to tombfist. Seems like a no-brainer to remove that and have one less cannon fodder uni

Uhm no.

They are actually unique because they allow secondary DoT sources to actively provide benefits to the user.

Traps and totems etc come to mind.

It's called "a unique"

Peace,

-Boem-

There is nothing to fix.

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Boem schrieb:

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I0wa schrieb:

Would these really be too op if they removed the "Can only kill frozen enemies". If they removed that part they would just be good gloves, still trash compared to tombfist. Seems like a no-brainer to remove that and have one less cannon fodder uni

Uhm no.

They are actually unique because they allow secondary DoT sources to actively provide benefits to the user.

Traps and totems etc come to mind.

It's called "a unique"

Peace,

-Boem-

I'm talking about real builds not trap builds lol. gloves are shit

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GoldDragon32 schrieb:

Guy wants to remove the one mod that makes the gloves see use.

@OP, you're looking at the item wrong. It's not that the item would be ok without the mod... it's that the mod is the selling point of the item. The gloves are for MF parties that want a single MFer to get all the killing blows. There are some other special situations where it's desirable to have an item that prevents killing blows (Tho with the changes to Vorici and Beastiary Mechanics, a few less then there used to be).

What selling point? Gloves are 1 alt trash. Not doing a very good job of being a selling point lol

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I0wa schrieb:

I'm talking about real builds not trap builds lol. gloves are shit

Do you think the ommision of an argument proves something?

I'm sure all the trappers feel very insulted while they keep insta-phasing or killing all the bosses in the game :(, poor them.

Good luck with your astounding ability's to formulate arguments and have a discussion.
A bright example of a between-league GD post i suppose.

Peace,

-Boem-

If you're using Southbound's, I would imagine you would be able to freeze enemies. If you're playing crit, which since you said "real builds" I'm assuming you are, you should be freezing almost everything.

Last time I checked, the only truly freeze immune enemies still in the game are the Breachlords. Shaper, Elder, Guardians, Atziri, and so on, are not freeze immune. They cannot be fully slowed, but they can still be frozen and killed while wielding these gloves.

Like others have mentioned, if you can prevent yourself from freezing enemies then you can prevent yourself from killing, which is a niche that some parties appreciate. Especially since there aren't a lot of ways you can outright prevent yourself from killing.

I'm using southbound on my bowmentalist. Theyre super strong, and I really have no issue with freezing anything? I agree, they may be a bit niche...

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GoldDragon32 schrieb:

Guy wants to remove the one mod that makes the gloves see use.

That really was the funniest idea for a "fix" ever. :)

How about removing "Knockback direction is reversed" from Empire's Grasp too? lol

Or .....

You could use Cameria's Avarice Gavel and gain the IIR bonus all the time by using those gloves .

Duel Wield them even.