POE Trade site listing expensive maps
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Fellow Exiles!
Recently I observed people are using red sextants for trade listings in poetrade for red maps. These sextants now worth 4.8 chaos and people are listing redmaps (t13) for 2 sextants. But contrary to my past experience the trade site lists these first as opposed to the cheaper ones which are on for 5 chaos. Is this an issue which should be resolved? Does the trade site should list these maps with weigthing in the proper value? I feel that lots of people are being chased into a more expensive trades with this current mode. Am I missing something related to the trade site mechanincs? Or is this good a thing for? D Zuletzt angestoßen am 09.01.2019, 00:33:42
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And how do you propose to resolve a player driven economy?
Either they sell or dont. Either you get a response or dont. Not much anyone can do really, other than not trade for (any item) at absurd prices, or at the very least be wary of price fixing. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Zuletzt bearbeitet von DarthSki44#6905 um 07.01.2019, 17:33:04
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I've not been a fan of default currency pathofexile trade site uses. I manually change it to chaos as I'd rather but that way than chisels, sextants, 150 alts lol. I'm not sure how they calculate value of each currency and have to scroll ages to find chaos otherwise. The default currency order doesn't seem right to me as well
Zuletzt bearbeitet von zengrath#4310 um 07.01.2019, 17:35:45
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" Please read OP post carefully again and rethink what you have just written. This has nothing to do with pricefixing or absurd prices, but all to do with how path of exile trade website incorrectly handles currency conversions when determining which offers are cheapest. In this exact example people sell maps, and even though their price is not the best, they appear first on the website, effectively taking advantage of the wrong working of the system and having more success than people setting offers in different currency. That would not be that suprising if not the fact that their website itself has built in currency market exchange with large data that could easily enable much more accurate algorithm determining current exchange ratios (and even if not, they could literally use data from sites like poe.ninja). I don't personally think this is a very important and urgent issue, but it shouldn't be denied and while you can easily just search via chosen currency knowing the ratios yourself, there are certainly people who are unaware of that and thus overpaying just because of this. |
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" I understand fully. The context is that the api doesn't account for a player driven economy that has currency fluctuations constantly. Whether its chisels, sextants, alterations, alchs, or any number of other possible trade requests, it's the player responsibility to know the approximate "price" Seriously? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." - Abraham Lincoln Zuletzt bearbeitet von DarthSki44#6905 um 07.01.2019, 17:57:01
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" Why do you think they're being "chased"? Anyone completing red maps consistently should be well aware of general market value, as well as knowing what websites to utilize as tools. Of course, some folks don't like utilizing the currency filters or are in too much of a rush to wait for additional results to load. Yep, totally over league play.
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I do agree it's strange, as red sextants are like 5c atm, and I was trying to buy some guardian maps earlier where the top listing as 6 red sextants, when in reality they are selling for 15c if you scroll down.
I think it's worth it to point out to people that the site isn't actually listing the cheapest first in this case. |
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" This is EXACTLY why people list those maps for 6 red sextants, because they know the currency that will show before Chaos Orbs and some people won't bother to check the value and buy those maps for 6 red sextants. The seller is just playing the market. It's up to the buyer to determine if the price is worth it. |
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It's not just maps. Listings for pretty much ANY item will show non-chaos prices shoehorned in at the wrong spot. Easy fix (someone mentioned already) is to set the search to grant only those prices that are listed in chaos orbs.
Knowledge is power.
Power corrupts. Stay stupid. |
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"offered item" sorting by price has ever been error prone.
there is no official list for currency exchange rates, all people can do is lookup people's advertisements. but since there are no statistics for what rate currency actually did get traded, assumed rates are imprecise cause most currency exchange offers are fake cause it's not mandatory to sell for the advertised rate. trade sites trying to list items by price is also counterproductive cause it enables malicious folks blocking all offers normal players can see with their fake offers. there is no real solution to that though. at least as long as ggg runs a open trade api. offline
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